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AngryDomo
11-20-2003, 11:44 AM
Sears is having a 50% off sale online and in-store. I'm going to pick up this:

102 Pc Mechanics Toolset $49.99 Reg Price $99.99 (http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=SEARS&pid=00934102000&sid=I0042300010008400234)

It's not available online but you can pick it up at a local store for the same price.

More 50% off stuff (http://www.sears.com/sr/framework/home.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0914707780.1069350182@@@ @&BV_EngineID=ccjjadcjmfmhkfecehgcemgdffmdflh.0&targetPage=%2fsplash%2fcell3splash20_1103.jsp&vertical=SEARS&adCell=P2&sid=I0042300010003800234)

Kreggo
11-20-2003, 12:15 PM
Thanks! Need one of those for a Christmas present.

creektech
11-20-2003, 12:18 PM
Are you sure the regular price is $99.99? I've seen this set for $49.99 often--I thought that was the regular price.

AngryDomo
11-20-2003, 12:27 PM
the regular price i took from the email sears sent me. i was going to pick up one of these sets last weekend instore and the price as I remember was $99.99, but online there is a 122 piece set for the same price, so it could have been that one. i'm going to sears later today, so i'll double check.

mdetz
11-20-2003, 12:31 PM
How's this compare to the stanley $38.99 150 pc mechanics set at Costco?

swifty
11-20-2003, 12:33 PM
Craftsman is one of the best brands for tools

have a kit from them and never had a problem

great great quality
you get what you pay for

PartialRecall
11-20-2003, 12:40 PM
Dupe post

Sears - 50% off (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=1188390)

:-)

fzj80
11-20-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by: mdetz
How's this compare to the stanley $38.99 150 pc mechanics set at Costco?
The Stanley kit at Costco is a MUCH better deal. That's not to say Stanley tools are better than Craftsman, definetly not the case, but in this case the kit offered at Costco (which was soldout at my local one last time I looked) is a much better deal.

The Costco kit has 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" ratchets, tons of sockets, up to 1" sizes, extentions, deep sockets, seriously it's a really good kit! I bought one for a friend, who is sending it to his brother in CA, I was looking through it before he sent it, couldn't believe all the stuff in it, infact if I find another one I'm buying one for myself.

You can tell how great of deal a kit is by how much it weighs, the Stanley weighted just over 22 lbs (we weighed it to ship it)...so you know you're atleast getting alot of steel in there... :)

Out...

Scoop01
11-20-2003, 01:23 PM
With the Craftsman tools you can return them to any Sears if they break, chip, bend, etc. anytime. The other tools usually have you deal directly with the manufacturer and they have to send you a new tool. Especially if you buy from a warehouse store like COSTCO or SAMS. Stores usually have a two week period you can exchange or return stuff. Other than going to Snap-On, Craftsman are about the best.

amdskip
11-20-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by: Scoop01
With the Craftsman tools you can return them to any Sears if they break, chip, bend, etc. anytime. The other tools usually have you deal directly with the manufacturer and they have to send you a new tool. Especially if you buy from a warehouse store like COSTCO or SAMS. Stores usually have a two week period you can exchange or return stuff. Other than going to Snap-On, Craftsman are about the best.Right on, its super easy to exchange out defective tools.

swifty
11-20-2003, 01:32 PM
True that - my friend damaged some of his tools (one of them on purpose) and got them replaced at sears - no questions asked

definately a plus if you do use them for work - or hard work, not just to sit there and have a set of tools for the sake of having them

craftman - definately worth it - if your use is light i guess the cosco brand will do

FlapJack
11-20-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by: Scoop01
With the Craftsman tools you can return them to any Sears if they break, chip, bend, etc. anytime. The other tools usually have you deal directly with the manufacturer and they have to send you a new tool. Especially if you buy from a warehouse store like COSTCO or SAMS. Stores usually have a two week period you can exchange or return stuff. Other than going to Snap-On, Craftsman are about the best.

I own alot of tools..... Lots of them are Craftsman. Scoop is correct for the average homeowner Craftsman is fine in fact probably more than you'll ever need and the convivence of returning it at the store is great... However this set has alot of trinket type tools like bits and those socket heads for the screw driver.... Those make this deal warm at best in my opinion..... Also those ratchets in this set have a tendancy to go bad.... I've returned alot of them to Sears....

I would wait and see if i could score a set of tools from Lowe's or The home Depot... Both offer nice toolds nowdays and are also located just about evrywhere and will honor their life time policy easily with no hassles....

of course this is just MHOf

Cheese78CA
11-20-2003, 03:44 PM
Are receipts required for defective exchanges? Just curious if I should keep my Craftsman receipts.

Cheese78CA
11-20-2003, 03:44 PM
Are receipts required for defective exchanges? Just curious if I should keep my Craftsman receipts.

Cheese78CA
11-20-2003, 03:45 PM
Are receipts required for defective exchanges? Just curious if I should keep my Craftsman receipts.

ams30gts
11-20-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by: Cheese78CA
Are receipts required for defective exchanges? Just curious if I should keep my Craftsman receipts.



no need for receipts. just take in the broken piece and they will give you a new one. i have done this in the past many times very easily.

if im not buying snap-on or mac tools, i go craftsman all the way.

SafetyDance
11-20-2003, 04:13 PM
Keep in mind that to "pad" the number of tools in this set, there are 24 allen keys. I figure that these are pretty much useless and your set really only has 74 pieces. There are other comparable Craftsman sets to this when on sale that are a better deal.

Mike

fzj80
11-20-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by: ams30gts

Originally posted by: Cheese78CA
Are receipts required for defective exchanges? Just curious if I should keep my Craftsman receipts.
no need for receipts. just take in the broken piece and they will give you a new one. i have done this in the past many times very easily.
if im not buying snap-on or mac tools, i go craftsman all the way.

Yeah I agree, I have about 95% Craftsman tools, replacing is cake. However, most tools don't break, there are certain tools that are prone to have problems, screwdrivers, small sockets, things like that. A normal wrench won't break, they just don't, no matter who you buy it from. I've had the cheapest tools from Harbor Freight (central something...) beat on those and still never broken them. I have lots of extentions and such from Harbor Freight, because you can't really hurt a extention and lots of times you end up beating on it and you don't feel bad since it wasn't expensive. I would never waste my money on screwdrivers that aren't Craftsman though, or any 3/8" sockets, since those take the most abuse. I've broken a few ratchets but try to use a breaker bar whereever I can, have broken some sockets, had others fly into pieces and fly so far I never found the pieces to take back to Sears...argh...

That Stanley kit was really nice though, I looked at it, everything felt good and solid, sure if you break something it'll be harder to fix that Craftsman but you also got 3 times the kit for the price...

By the way Stanley makes MAC tools also...and MAC are arguably some of the best out there.

Out...

dleiss
11-20-2003, 04:55 PM
I've replaced nicked screw drivers, sockets, ratchets, a shovel with a broken handle, no questions asked. Its stamped Craftman.

Cheaper tools may not go bad, but when a socket or screw driver does go bad it takes the bolt or screw-head with it and that is a royal pain.

Grizybaer
11-20-2003, 05:18 PM
craftsman is quality, no question there and their warranty is one of the best out there. Is this deal hot?, naa.. i would wait for the sears deals like 10 piece 3/8 metric plus free ratchet for $10. Those are the ones you'll be using the most. I have a 15 piece 3/8" metric set that i got for ~14. It's plenty adequate for common repairs on cars, of course my dad has enough big 1/2" & whatever size is larger than that in case you want to change an axle or strut.

The costco deal sounds really hot, i haven't seen it yet but will prolly buy it if its as good as you all say it is.

BTW, none of my craftsman sockets/ratchets have ever broken, i have breaker bars and large drive sockets to get out the hard ones. you could get a cheap set of large drive, 1/2"+ at harbor freight for not too much. Its likely you'll only use them once or twice anyway.

Grizybaer
11-20-2003, 05:22 PM
after looking at the picture, its not hot at all, well, if you're using it for automotive stuff. The 1/4" ratchet is pretty much useless, and most cars these days use exclusively metric sockets, our 2003 impala is all metric so far.

so pretty much all they give you is about 15 useful pieces, and all the rest are ones you'll rarely, if ever use.

Childs
11-20-2003, 07:02 PM
The Craftman set isnt that good. I got it last year for Xmas. Lots of useless bits for the spinner, and the wrenches are a joke. 3 SAE and 3 Metric. I had to buy wrenches at Harbor Freight. Everything else was good, but then I had to lug that big case (the case is huge) around and carry around a set of wrenches. I picked up the Stanley set, and its much more useful. I actually got two, the second one as a present.

AngryDomo
11-20-2003, 08:27 PM
anyone have more info on the costco stanley set? i've been to three local costcos and none have them in stock. it sounds like a great deal, just want to know where I can get it and what's included in the set. thanks!

Grizybaer
11-20-2003, 08:32 PM
Just wondering, how many times have you used your SAE sized tools/sockets in the past year or so.

AND, what did you use them for?

gunblade
11-20-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by: Grizybaer
Just wondering, how many times have you used your SAE sized tools/sockets in the past year or so.

AND, what did you use them for?

No, almost always use the metric since I got a Nissan.

Evadman
11-20-2003, 11:02 PM
I counted my sockets last weekend when I was cleaning up all my crap. I ahve over 700 sockets and 27 ratchets. All Craftsman :)

<--- owns 1/4 of the entire craftsman catalog.

Cheese78CA
11-20-2003, 11:21 PM
Believe it or not, I've bent a 11mm open wrench (stamped Drop Forge on it) on the hexagonal end while trying to losen the hydraulic line on the wheel cylinder. All by hand too, I must have some supernatural powers I'm not aware of. :) Speaking of an 11mm wrench; why doesn't the 150 pc. Stanley set at Costco have an 11mm wrench? Isn't 11mm one of most widely used nut size?


Originally posted by: fzj80<brHowever, most tools don't break, there are certain tools that are prone to have problems, screwdrivers, small sockets, things like that. A normal wrench won't break, they just don't, no matter who you buy it from....

spinn
11-21-2003, 02:03 AM
for you "toolmen" out there...FYI (http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Tech/Tools/Vendors/vendors.html).

Craftsman made by makers of Matco tools
Kobalt @ Lowes made by makers of Snap-On
Husky @ Home Depot made by makers of Stanley and I believe MAC.

Read the article...it's good reading.

For the DIYer at home, Craftsman tools get the job done just fine.

alkemyst
11-23-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by: mdetz
How's this compare to the stanley $38.99 150 pc mechanics set at Costco?

Stanley > Sears for general HOME use. They are about 1/2 the price on sets.

Sears > Stanley for auto or farm use. High torque applications.

Stanley has let me down a few times on sockets (cracked), rachets (stripped), and screwdrivers (breaking).

I have only broke on craftsman socket (a deep one which are fragile by design) after using a 10lb sledgehammer to free an exhaust nut when I didn't have a saw available.

I have only broke one tooth a a craftsman rachet (3/8") after doing a suspension on an older car and using a hammer with my rachet (a no-no) since we couldn't find a large enough pipe and my breaker bar got left at home.

&Aring;

hytek369
11-24-2003, 03:47 PM
you get what you pay for

craftsman pretty lasts for life

NeuralChaos
11-24-2003, 08:44 PM
Uh, Costco has an unconditional return policy. I've already bought the costco kit. Shouldn't I in theory be able to return the kit at any time and just buy a new one? Granted they might not have the same one, but I should at least get my money back.

alkemyst
11-25-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by: NeuralChaos
Uh, Costco has an unconditional return policy. I've already bought the costco kit. Shouldn't I in theory be able to return the kit at any time and just buy a new one? Granted they might not have the same one, but I should at least get my money back.

lifetime warranty does you no good if the tool is alway broken.

lifetime warranty only works well if the store replaces on site and the same day and is also easy to get to.

Like I said above Stanley (and the other types also that usually carry a lifetime warranty) are fine for a homeowner not doing auto/farm repair. High torques are what breaks tools. As long as they are accurate (a 1/2" wrench is 1/2") you should have no problems with many much cheaper than Craftsman tools. However Craftsman has killer sales and ebay is a great source for them.

BTSocket
11-25-2003, 09:49 AM
hey i have this craftsman set, it does the job but i must say the quality isnt excatly great. a few wrenches stopped working and the case it somes in just sucks. tools never stay put in their designated spots. so everytime u move it around, they all just fall to the bottom.. sucks, but for 50 bucks its a good deal

its not like we have money for SNAP-ONs !

EF9
11-25-2003, 09:49 AM
Keep in mind that to "pad" the number of tools in this set, there are 24 allen keys. I figure that these are pretty much useless and your set really only has 74 pieces. There are other comparable Craftsman sets to this when on sale that are a better deal.


you just dont know...............................

alkemyst
11-25-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by: BTSocket
hey i have this craftsman set, it does the job but i must say the quality isnt excatly great. a few wrenches stopped working and the case it somes in just sucks. tools never stay put in their designated spots. so everytime u move it around, they all just fall to the bottom.. sucks, but for 50 bucks its a good deal

its not like we have money for SNAP-ONs !

You are faulting the *case*?!!....then bring up snap-on? whoa!

what wrenches just stop working?

I think someone missed the short bus this morning.

BTSocket
11-25-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: BTSocket
hey i have this craftsman set, it does the job but i must say the quality isnt excatly great. a few wrenches stopped working and the case it somes in just sucks. tools never stay put in their designated spots. so everytime u move it around, they all just fall to the bottom.. sucks, but for 50 bucks its a good deal

its not like we have money for SNAP-ONs !

You are faulting the *case*?!!....then bring up snap-on? whoa!

what wrenches just stop working?

I think someone missed the short bus this morning.



i meant ratchets and i never stated that craftsman and snap-on are in the same class.


hence 'its not like we have money for snap-ons'

Salvador
11-25-2003, 10:09 AM
My favorite tools are Snap on, but I can't justify the price if I don't use them all the time (as if I were a mechanic). Sears tools are of good quality and you can't beat the lifetime replacement policy. The Lowe's brand tools interest me, but as luck would have it, I don't have any Lowe's in my area.

Important question that I'm trying to get answered about Sears. I have my eyes on a few things that will be on sale Friday. I was thinking about picking them up early at full price to make sure that I get them and then do a PM Friday. Has anyone here successfully price matched Sears Black Friday price if you purchased the item early at full price?

Sal

gnawrot
11-25-2003, 11:35 AM
Lowes used to sell Snap On under Kobalt Tools name. Unfortunatelly, Kobalt tools sold these days are not Snap On. I got one 1/2 and 3/8 socket sets made by Snap On and I love it. What a quality and craftsmanship. These things don't brake. I used cheater bars sometimes. However, I use breaker bar from Harbor Freight most of the time, which work fine (mostly car suspension jobs). Since I started using Kobalt tools sockets, rounded off bolts problem is gone.

Lowes sells Kobalt tools, which are made by KD Tools I believe (Danaher tools or something). These tools are used by professionals but not definitely as great as Snap On.

I have some wrenches Kobalt Tools (Snap On) and they just rock. Also I have one 1/4 SK Tool metric socket set and I do with it all smaller jobs. GearWrenches are nice for some special jobs where space is very limited. Saved me many times. I have one made by KD Tools, made in Taiwan. 5 degrees required to make a click, which is nice where you cannot do a lot of movement.

So now, Craftsman is good bet I would say or other professional grade tools.

BTW, God knows how long Sears will exist and if it goes belly up, so will all warranties go.

50$ is a fair price for this set but nothing really impressive. Shallow sockets. Deep sockets are more expensive and more common (only 10 in this set). 102 pieces which includes hex key (usefull and cost 10$ for set) with two ratchets (1/4 and 3/8). High number of pieces but does it include 16 mm, 18 mm and 20 mm sockets? I doubt. Good set for amateurs but for hobbists, mechanics or people doing all car repair jobs (such as myself), this set is not worth the trouble.

Salvador
11-25-2003, 01:21 PM
50$ is a fair price for this set but nothing really impressive. Shallow sockets. Deep sockets are more expensive and more common (only 10 in this set). 102 pieces which includes hex key (usefull and cost 10$ for set) with two ratchets (1/4 and 3/8). High number of pieces but does it include 16 mm, 18 mm and 20 mm sockets? I doubt. Good set for amateurs but for hobbists, mechanics or people doing all car repair jobs (such as myself), this set is not worth trouble.
I have my eye on the 248 piece set for $150 (usually $300). I have odds and ends of just about everything and I wanted to get a complete set of sockets.

Sal

alkemyst
11-25-2003, 01:47 PM
Snap-on excels only because they offer in-house service. Many mechanics own SnapOn and Craftsman. They'd rather pay than shop on work time/their off time.

Also with a Snap-On tool, if you are not a shop good luck getting warranty service quickly.

Sears doesn't want to do the professional type service, despite offering professional grade tools.

Their Companion line looks ok for the homeowner too.

Salvador
11-25-2003, 02:26 PM
Snap-on excels only because they offer in-house service.
I think it's a superior product also. When I used to turn wrenches on the side in high school, we'd get visited by the Snap-on and Mac truck. Both had excellent service to shops, but after using both sets of tools, I much prefer the Snap on to the Mac. I don't know what it is either. Just a feel. It's why someone would go with BMW over Mercedes I guess.

Sal

gnawrot
11-25-2003, 02:42 PM
Snap on attention to detail is great. Those tools are better made and better designed (ergonomics). It is really remarkable - it must be for the price you pay. Kobalt tools were bargain at the time. Too bad, they are gone. Craftsman ratchet does not compare to Snap On ratchet in terms of ergonomics.

alkemyst
11-25-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by: gnawrot
Snap on attention to detail is great. Those tools are better made and better designed (ergonomics). It is really remarkable - it must be for the price you pay. Kobalt tools were bargain at the time. Too bad, they are gone. Craftsman ratchet does not compare to Snap On ratchet in terms of ergonomics.

Sears has I think 4 different types of rachets. The basic, the round and the pro as well as fine and course gears in the lines.

Salvador
11-27-2003, 08:35 AM
F*cken Sears! They bait me in with their online sale for today, so I forego trying to buy it before hand and price matching Friday. I try to purchase what I wanted today and not all of it is on sale yet and to make things worse, it's only available online for delivery. I'm not paying their excessive delivery fee's. This is BS! I'm not going to play fair next year.

Sal